Sunday, September 6, 2020

FEMA Camp Paranoia

 During Bush's second term, the left was sending around paranoid emails claiming that FEMA had built a two million man concentration camp in Alaska for "dissidents."  My reaction was:

1. That should be easily photographed from space.  Where are the satellite pictures.

2. Alaska?  How would get two million "dissidents" there.  Flying that number would be impractical. Sending them across frozen California (our neighbor to the north and sorta ally) by truck or train would be glaringly obvious and impossible to hide.

Then after Obama was elected, the conspiracy theorists peddling this were "conservatives" (in quotes because the John Birch Society and similar groups are well outside the realm of respectable conservative thought).  At least they were claiming camps in the lower 48; I was informed that there was one east of Boise.  So I asked, do you have some pictures?  Dead silence.

This time, the source is the Ohio state government web site.  

Non-congregate sheltering be utilized throughout the state for those who are unable to safely self quarantine in their place of residence and to isolate those diagnosed with or showing symptoms of COVID-19. Examples of the types of persons included in this order are those who test positive for COVID-19 who do not require hospitalization but need isolation (including those exiting from hospitals); those who have been exposed to COVID-19 who do not require hospitalization; and asymptomatic high-risk individuals needing social distancing as a precautionary measure. Sheltering specific populations in non-congregate shelters should be determined by a local public health official’s direction or guidance and should be based on individual needs

Non-congregate I believe means isolation.  No mention of due process.

It appears to be a prewritten order dated August XX 2020.  Curiously, the link includes the words Second_Amendment.  Is this a hack?  The more I look at that URL, the more sure that I am this either a hack, or an unauthorized posting by an Ohio state employee.

UPDATE: I was not claiming the JBS promoted the FEMA claims.  JBS, in spite of a fairly libertarian leaning, made themselves absurd with their conspiracy theory explanation of statism. Conspiracies require intelligence and planning; statists lack both.  Stupidity on the other hand is the second most common element in the universe.

Some of you noticed that the link is Second Amended.  I am also told that is linked to under August orders here.  It is here.


  1. > Sending them across frozen California (our neighbor and sorta ally)

    ITYM "Canada".

    You can tell the difference. One is a socialist hell hole, the other is our neighbor to the north.

  2. "Second_Amended" actually, though that doesn't make much sense.

  3. The link includes the words "Second Amended", not "Second Amendment".

    It is also directly reachable from the Public Health Orders portion of the COVID-19 page, under Ohio Department of Health ==> August ==> 08/31/20 "Director's Second Amended Order for Non-Congregate Sheltering to be Utilized throughout Ohio".

    It seems like an official release to me.

  4. Just a quick note - the Birch Society never made such claims.

  5. Hal: I find 5 orders under August none pointing to that URL.

  6. Jay: I read "Second Amended" to indicate that the order has been amended twice since it was initially issued.

    Clayton: Close the "Governor DeWine" orders and open the "Ohio Department of Health" orders. It is the latest one listed for August.