Sunday, November 5, 2017

Another Mass Murder

20+ dead in a church in San Antonio.   Shooter dead.   No other details yet.   Another tragedy.

11/5/17 ABC News:
Martin said that the suspect was found dead in his truck after running off the road near the county line after fleeing and being fired upon by a local resident at the church. Investigators remain unsure of whether or not he was killed by a self-inflicted gunshot or by a shot fired by the local resident.

International Business Times reports about the shooter:
Kelley was reportedly a former United States Air Force service member, who received a dishonorable discharge and was court-martialed in 2014, CBS News reported. Investigators said they were looking into Kelley’s alleged social media posts, including one that may have shown an AR-15 semiautomatic weapon.
So not a lawful gun owner.


  1. Update: The shooter is reported to be white, but that may not mean too much. The truck driver in New York would have been viewed as white if not for his large beard. He is also reported to have been wearing black tactical gear and a ballistic Vest. A resident shot him with a rifle as he was fleeing the church, but the shooter was able to leave the area.

  2. One wonders as to the circumstances of the dishonorable. I also wonder if he may have done duty overseas in the middle east.

  3. Reportedly he had a cushy logistics job in the USAF, and managed to get a dishonorable discharge from that. That would take some doing, so I wonder if we will learn what he did to earn the DD, and whether that would have been a predictor of this atrocity.

  4. Drudge answered my question:

    "Kelley is a former U.S. Air Force member who served from 2010 to 2014. Records confirm Kelley previously served in logistics readiness in New Mexico until his discharge in 2014, Air Force spokesperson Ann Stefanek said in a statement.

    "Kelley was court-martialed in 2012 for two counts of assault on his then-wife and assault on their child, Stefanek said. He received a bad conduct discharge and confinement for 12 months."

  5. An update says it’s a Bad Conduct Discharge, not a DD, which doesn’t trigger GCA 68. It’s being suggested that he SHOULD have berry banned because of the nature of his charges in the military—perhaps they didn’t show up in NICS.