Monday, December 21, 2020

Have Any of You Received the COVID19 Vaccine Yet?

While it appears that it would be a personal win for most people,  it appears public health authorities will not authorize a free society until most are vaccinated. 

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  1. My state doesn't have enough yet to cover healthcare and care-home workers, but have scheduled to start vaccinating the most at-risk of care-home residents by the 29th, so they must know that more is in the pipeline on the way.

    Unless we get more of the not-yet approved vaccines in the pipeline, it looks like the logistics of manufacturing so much so quickly is the bottleneck

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  2. Why would you want to be the government's guinea pig for this? Totally new process for making it, no liability for the makers or the .gov, a blind rush to "do something", a not especially bad virus, and now there seems to be a new version of it appearing, that probably won't be affected by this possibly dangerous vaccine. Here in the US, it seems that it isn't as deadly as the typical flu, since the deaths will be lower this year than happened in the last two years. There seem to be current, safe, medicines that control this virus, without dealing with this new style shot.

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    1. Actually it is a pretty bad virus. Death totals are inflated, but it is killing a lot of people. Asphyxiating is not a good way to do.

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    2. no liability for the makers or the .gov, a blind rush to "do something", a not especially bad virus, and now there seems to be a new version of it appearing, that probably won't be affected by this possibly dangerous vaccine. Here in the US, it seems that it isn't as deadly as the typical flu, since the deaths will be lower this year than happened in the last two years. There seem to be current, safe, medicines that control this virus, without dealing with this new style shot.

      Let's see how many lies you can pack into two and half sentences:

      The government is handling the liability through a Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program "vaccine court" modeled on the Reagan era one for childhood vaccines. Making a vaccine is the very most obvious thing to do when a new very infectious virus shows up, belittling it as "do something" act is blood libel. A very bad virus for some people, who you simply don't care about.

      No sign yet the "new version" of the virus won't be covered by these vaccines, all depends on whether our bodies pick some "conserved" parts of the spike protein to make antibodies etc. to. If not, everyone is at risk for a new infection, and we'll need to have words with the PRC/CCP.

      All cause mortality is way up in 2020, look at columns three and four. And oh joy, death certificates from the third wave haven't hit the CDC yet. And you fail to understand the value of prevention, treatments don't always work, and one possible one has for a long time been effectively outlawed due to the BAD ORANGE MAN boosting it.

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  3. it looks like the logistics of manufacturing so much so quickly is the bottleneck

    With quasi-infinite demand and finite supply, there would be shortages anyway, but the picture I've been getting is that Pfizer's TDS has caused them, officially so far, to miss by one half their promises for early doses. Aside of course for a contingent contract for 100 million doses, they made quite a point about refusing to have do anything with Operation Warp Speed (OWS), which has spent a lot on vaccine supply chains. Now I'm reading from multiple sources they're reversing that policy, both before and with the announcement that OWS is buying another 100 million doses, with delivery by the end of the second quarter, when they were previously saying the earliest they could get us more would be in the third quarter.

    BTW, you'll find in the link mention of OWS signing on for another 100 million doses from Moderna, with an option for 300 million more, so together that's enough for 350 million people even if they other Operation Warp Speed helped companies can't deliver on their vaccine candidates.

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  4. Got vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine December 17th, due for the second dose after 21 days.
    No side effects, not even a sore shoulder.

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