Friday, November 25, 2011
AR-10 Review
This review of the Armalite AR-10A4 includes a 2" group at 500 yards! That has to be extraordinary luck. I have always been partial to the AR-10, but when I bought a .308 battle rifle, the AR-10 was not back in production. The review also claims that the AR-10 has less recoil than the M1A--primarily because it is distributing the recoil over a long period of time. Do any of my readers have experience of AR-10 and M1A recoil?
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The AR10 has a less felt recoil, but it is VERY hard to get a comfortable sitting and prone position. Prone is the worst. Seems like the oversized receiver makes it hard to get find a spot that feels natural. The AMU shooters hate it, having tried it as a 1000 yard rifle.
ReplyDeleteM1A is very comfortable to shoot prone. Put your cheekbone on the back of your thumb joint and watch the front sight.
No experience with an AR-10, so I can't give you a direct comparison.
ReplyDeleteI'd advocate a different approach, however: whenever you start to think your M1A has too much recoil, go shoot your Mosin for a while. :-)
If I were interested in the genre, my money would go for a LaRue PredetAR, and if a dedicated marksman rifle was the intended utilization, the the LaRue OBR.
ReplyDeleteIf I wanted a weapon in this class, I would've gone for Kel-Tec RFB. I have one of their toys, a SU-16CA, and I like it a lot. As for AR-10, it always seemed like a Saiga (even though historically it was before its medium-size successor).
ReplyDeleteI don't know anything about comparable recoil, but I'd agree with extraordinary luck on the accuracy.
ReplyDeletePeople I Know Who Would Know assure me that the AR-10 is not typically a target rifle (in terms of its innate characteristics and Being Hard To Make Accurate, they say - and because evidently Armalite has had some shoddy QC).
2" at 500 yards is half minute-of-angle territory, which is impressive from anything. I find it almost incomprehensible from an AR-10.
(And having looked at that review, I have serious doubts of the competence of the author.
First there's some pretty mall-ninja-ish stuff about home defense and shooting through walls and doors - intentionally.
And then "This 2.03 inch group at 300 yards was surprising for the gun and makes you wonder if with a little tuning it could be an under MOA gun for not a ton of money."
Doesn't he know that MOA at 300 yards is just over three inches, and he's claiming the gun is already sub-MOA?
The mind, it boggles.)
Sigivald: I did not even notice the severity of that error. I remember in the 1990s, when I was still a gun dealer, it was commonly understood that the Remington 700 Police Sniper Specials were typically 1/4 MOA rifles--and these were pretty special rifles. They started with the Varmint Special barrels, and picked the top 10% in accuracy for the PSS model.
ReplyDeleteWhile 1/4 MOA rifles are a struggle, sub-MOA rifles are not at all difficult to get. Shortly after I bought my M1A (and not even a National Match version), I shot a four shot group at 100 yards that was under 1" center-to-center--and three of those shots were overlapping. (This was from a bench, sandbag, and using a 12x scope.)
A friend kept a target on his reloading bench as a reminder of what he could achieve when he was careful enough with his measurements: it was a 220 yard target with three overlapping .308 holes, fired from a Ruger M77. (Again, fired from a bench, a bipod, and using a 12x scope.)
Having owned a national match at-10. They are not your every day hunting rifle but magnitudes far better. Double hits on a quarter at 250yards. This was with mm peep sights. As for quality you have to see it ,when you out shoot a weather and they ask to shoot your weapon
ReplyDeleteMost prefer to spend less,get less for the money
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