tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post772055355158709647..comments2024-03-27T08:40:31.785-06:00Comments on Clayton Cramer.: For Some Reason, This Isn't a Hate CrimeClayton Cramerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-16830817683992131792011-10-20T22:23:31.965-06:002011-10-20T22:23:31.965-06:00I'm not sure - the whole point of 'hate cr...I'm not sure - the whole point of 'hate crime' statutes was to allow for increased sentencing for attacks on individuals because of the groups they belonged to in contrast to what a specific individual does.<br /><br />In this case they could already prosecute for the vandalism and for the civil rights violation, I.e. it's already 'enhanced'.<br /><br />But any way the reason the police can't call it a hate crime is because that term has specific meaning legally and I can see how this doesn't necessarily fit.Oshtur Vishantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726831167279649482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-28489009612381396422011-10-20T22:01:35.014-06:002011-10-20T22:01:35.014-06:00An interesting point--and an argument that hate cr...An interesting point--and an argument that hate crimes are perhaps less useful than they first appear. This is every bit as destructive to a society as a crime based on race or ethnicity, because it attempts to suppress freedom of speech.Clayton Cramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-13590438394906375652011-10-20T19:45:35.301-06:002011-10-20T19:45:35.301-06:00Clayton, I think the issue is that someone motivat...Clayton, I think the issue is that someone motivated by being anti-homophobia doesn't fit in any 'hate crime' category. <br /><br />They didn't act against any religion, and not any sexual orientation. <br /><br />What category of hate crime would this be?Oshtur Vishantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726831167279649482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-23369549854356699432011-10-20T13:28:57.937-06:002011-10-20T13:28:57.937-06:00I've always hated the term "Hate Crime&qu...I've always hated the term "Hate Crime". Are you going to expect me to believe that the assaults, beatings, murders, etc. perpetrated on people who aren't "protected" are done because the perpetrators love the victims? Or that it's nothing personal, just business?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com