tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post5294321450362361712..comments2024-03-27T08:40:31.785-06:00Comments on Clayton Cramer.: Some People Should Stop Digging Before the Hole Collapses on ThemClayton Cramerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-31399085535100923992018-08-20T16:11:34.434-06:002018-08-20T16:11:34.434-06:00The leader of a group is always the one who is res...The leader of a group is always the one who is responsible. The Pope is both a spiritual leader and a leader of the Catholic Church in general. I will accept that there are a lot of sexual abusers in the Church as a whole, but the Catholic Church is the one that has been covering for their abusers for a long, long time.pigpen51https://www.blogger.com/profile/01036907880805485560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-67969672181537936902018-08-19T23:36:02.129-06:002018-08-19T23:36:02.129-06:00Why did a grand jury and a state AG investigate ca...Why did a grand jury and a state AG investigate cases too old to prosecute?<br /><br />I don't know of any evidence that Donohue doesn't spend any time looking for ways to identify and compensate victims, or that the state AG has put forth any initiatives to identify victims objectively.AlanKHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00415873942467466303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-87958154222561905242018-08-19T20:25:02.639-06:002018-08-19T20:25:02.639-06:00Donohoe's job isn't to fix the Church, it&...Donohoe's job isn't to fix the Church, it's to defend it. And, he is correct. The Church isn't the problem, but some big mistakes in the past certainly were. Greatest among them was admitting homosexual priests, and that is the point that Donoahoe is making.<br /><br />Those who wish to bash the Church rant against child rape, but the majority of this was homosexual grooming and statutory rape - crimes for sure, wrong for sure, but not nearly as horrible as pedophilia. But to listen to or read the mass media, one gets the impression that the Church as a whole condoned and covered up child rape.<br /><br />The Church as a whole has never, ever condoned this behavior. Good grief, priests having sex with *anyone* is a big no-no for the Church.<br /> <br />Did some higher ups cover it up? You bet, and that is on them. Did the Pope cover it up? I have seen no evidence. Was the Church somewhat blind to this behavior - I suspect it was, having a bit too much faith in the priesthood. It has learned from this, and is continuing to learn.<br /><br />But, I resist a lot of these attacks because they seek to destroy the Church, and that is the Devil's work - whether it is the Catholic Church or Christianity in general (and take a look at the non-Catholic sects and you will find the same incidence of child abuse - it just doesn't make the papers as a giant story, because there are so many different protestant groups that any particular one doesn't have numbers as bit.StormCchaserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02998174514362089471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-3859325180727260462018-08-18T19:46:27.447-06:002018-08-18T19:46:27.447-06:00The Boston archdiocese closed and sold many church...The Boston archdiocese closed and sold many churches to pay abuse claims. The Church's wealth is less dramatic than widely believed.Clayton Cramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-85365260567661014722018-08-18T16:06:59.804-06:002018-08-18T16:06:59.804-06:00It obviously is not a matter of money. The Cathol...It obviously is not a matter of money. The Catholic Church could give each of the victims a million dollars, and they would not even notice the money lost. So it is a matter of once again, trying to hide their shame, just like many other governments do. Think the Armenian genocide, and how Turkey refused to allow it to be called that. To the point of political retaliation if need be. <br /><br />No, the Catholic Church is just trying to play a defensive strategy that involves sweeping their dirt under the rug, and hope that everyone forgets. <br /><br />The cause of Christ? To the Catholic leaders, that is secondary, if even that important. Number one is to maintain their grip on the wealth and power that the Catholic organization has amassed. <br /><br />I remember the verse " Jesus Wept." It was for such unbelief as this, that made His heart weary. pigpen51https://www.blogger.com/profile/01036907880805485560noreply@blogger.com