tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post2348668951875959558..comments2024-03-27T08:40:31.785-06:00Comments on Clayton Cramer.: A Rather Dubious ConnectionClayton Cramerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-3413307418265508732012-05-10T22:25:11.801-06:002012-05-10T22:25:11.801-06:00Yes, I saw this mentioned recently. Essentially, ...Yes, I saw this mentioned recently. Essentially, he decided that the people who claimed to have changed their orientation weren't trustworthy. Unlike the ones who claimed that they hadn't changed.Clayton Cramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-64043714491214451262012-05-10T20:22:39.149-06:002012-05-10T20:22:39.149-06:00Spitzer recently retracted the 2003 paper you cite...Spitzer recently retracted the 2003 paper you cite, as noted on his Wikipedia page.<br /><br />The Archives of Sexual Behavior declined to publish the retraction. Alice Dreger of Psychology Today reports that upon hearing Spitzer's request, editor Ken Zucker told him, "You didn’t falsify the data. You didn’t commit egregious statistical errors in analyzing the data. You didn’t make up the data. There were various commentaries on your paper, some positive, some negative, some in between. So the only thing that you seem to want to retract is your interpretation of the data, and lots of people have already criticized you for interpretation, methodological issues, etc."<br />http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fetishes-i-dont-get/201204/how-ex-ex-gay-study<br /><br />And the band played on, he noted ironically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-84156684232719889102012-02-24T14:29:43.329-07:002012-02-24T14:29:43.329-07:00In the AP account I read, which went into some det...In the AP account I read, which went into some details of the communications and timeline, several things stood out; in particular:<br /><br />The only clear cut "prejudice" was the gay's mentioning Dunkin Donuts at the end of a short entry after he'd met his roommate's parents (but that could be humor especially after Biden's comment). In general they seemed to be OK with each other (gay about roommate: he's occasionally an "asshole" but otherwise fine, roommate just didn't care about the other's sexual orientation, not counting reserving the room for a tryst with a 25 year old outsider).<br /><br />He came out to his family just before going off to college and his mother had a <i>very</i> negative reaction. And the two had a phone conversation just before he committed suicide.<br /><br />In general, there just didn't seem to be a harassment case there and there was a quote from the prosecutor that public pressure was why he was going all Inspector Javert on the roommate.<br /><br />For further thought: you get randomly assigned a gay roommate in college. You're OK with him, but if you have the <i>slightest</i> suspicion he might kill himself or whatever this case suggests that you ought to seriously consider withdrawing for the term for some BS reason; the risk to yourself could be high in the current environment of academia.ThatWouldBeTellinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910231314995266781noreply@blogger.com