tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post207966446012686231..comments2024-03-27T08:40:31.785-06:00Comments on Clayton Cramer.: I Know Why Studios Wouldn't Touch This FilmClayton Cramerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-30528281161684595472013-04-06T08:39:16.821-06:002013-04-06T08:39:16.821-06:00Blue haired old church ladies in Vegas? It wasn&#...Blue haired old church ladies in Vegas? It wasn't known as Sin City in those days because it was where "blue haired old church ladies" went to observe sin and evangelize.<br /><br />There are certainly many gay Republicans. (Senator Wide Stance, for example.)Clayton Cramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-55042290543165655932013-04-06T08:26:40.368-06:002013-04-06T08:26:40.368-06:00LOL. Liberace was a conservative Republican and w...LOL. Liberace was a conservative Republican and was less in the closet about that than his sexual orientation. I think you are forgetting the timeline under which Lee achieved his fame. His fans were chiefly blue haired old church ladies who fooled themselves into thinking they had a chance with him. And he played along with the joke.Jonathan Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079637406589278386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-38909493487633050302013-04-04T17:11:20.487-06:002013-04-04T17:11:20.487-06:00I'm sure a little time in re-write could get t...I'm sure a little time in re-write could get that closeted conservative meme into the movie so no one would miss it.<br /><br />And as for sterotypes, wasn't it Mike Royko or Jimmy Breslin who wrote that every stereotype has a germ of truth to it, or it couldn't become a stereotype? Jews were able to drive a hard bargain, and the Irish liked a drink or two were the two examples he gave. <br /><br />And yes, considering the 40 year age difference there is some serious revisionism going on there casting<br />Matt Damon as Scott Thorson where Damon is 12 years older than Thorson was when his book was published. Considering not only the relationship with Liberace was from when Thorson was 16 to age 23, this is deceitful to the max. Add in the furor over the casting for M Butterfly some years back, the age difference is something the gay mafia wants swept under the rug. Windy Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01951254236693386401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-87523040698400503142013-04-04T11:28:26.247-06:002013-04-04T11:28:26.247-06:00Liberace actually started going after Thorson when...Liberace actually started going after Thorson when Thorson was only sixteen, under the age of consent in California at the time (although not most other states) and with an extreme age difference along with a lot of additional exceptionally creepy behavior (screwing an effective employee, pressuring someone into plastic surgery with a less-than-ethical doctor). I think you're setting your expectations for the HBO special too high, though : the <i>Candelabra</i> book itself treats the relationship as if it were a lot more healthy than it likely way. Thorson's... got issues, unsurprisingly for a straight guy that went through that. Given that the picked Matt Damon to play a sixteen- to late-twenties-year-old, HBO probably isn't going to play up the predatory aspects to the relationship.<br /><br />And movies can still be "too gay" for producers today. Having sanitized and politically acceptable gay characters are necessary, if you want your work to match the times, as it's great as a one-note gag. Male-male sexuality or a gender flip of the male gaze, however, aren't exactly kosher. Even heterosexual focus on male characters, such as the recent <i>Magic Mike</i> movie, get a lot of negative reaction. I can go both ways, and was still pretty uncomfortable watching parts of that film. Actual makeout sessions, such as in the <i>Torchwood</i> series, get it treated as a gay niche thing -- if it doesn't avoid getting an R rating for a kiss. Even films about progressive saints do this : <i>Milk</i> doesn't just play his social radicalism down for the political narrative, it carefully excises a lot of his personal preferences in order to make things less gay and more normal. There are official policies on this sort of thing at the MPAA.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581481195058896802noreply@blogger.com