tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post8115908880230958852..comments2024-03-27T08:40:31.785-06:00Comments on Clayton Cramer.: Islam's Twisted CodeClayton Cramerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-86588356539482986672015-08-14T15:27:22.606-06:002015-08-14T15:27:22.606-06:00Rich: Honor killings are not unknown in Latin Amer...Rich: Honor killings are not unknown in Latin America. but the misogyny of Islam discourages social pressure against this.Clayton Cramerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03258083387204776812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-68736373389785334212015-08-14T12:35:52.623-06:002015-08-14T12:35:52.623-06:00The problem is not Islam itself, but the misogynis...The problem is not Islam itself, but the misogynistic "honor/shame" culture which infests Middle and South Asian cultures. "Honor killings" are not mandated or even permitted under sharia law; formally, they count as any other sort of murder. Prominent Islamic scholars have condemned honor murder, and honor murderers are often arrested.<br /><br />And then they get let off with minor sentences.<br /><br />It should also be noted that "honor killings" occur among non-Moslems from the same area: Yezidi, Druze, even Sikhs. And the idea behind honor killing was once accepted in western culture, too. See Shakespeare's play <i>Titus Andronicus</i>.<br /><br />Lavinia, daughter of the eponymous protagonist, is raped by Chiron and Demetrius, who cut off her hands and tongue to silence her. Titus learns the truth anyway; in the final scene (Act V, Scene III) he serves their flesh in a pie to their mother, Tamora, and stepfather, Emperor Saturninus.<br /><br />...<br /><br />TITUS ANDRONICUS<br /><br /> An if your highness knew my heart, you were.<br /> My lord the emperor, resolve me this:<br /> Was it well done of rash Virginius<br /> To slay his daughter with his own right hand,<br /> Because she was enforced, stain'd, and deflower'd?<br /><br />SATURNINUS<br /><br /> It was, Andronicus.<br /><br />TITUS ANDRONICUS<br /><br /> Your reason, mighty lord?<br /><br />SATURNINUS<br /><br /> Because the girl should not survive her shame,<br /> And by her presence still renew his sorrows.<br /><br />TITUS ANDRONICUS<br /><br /> A reason mighty, strong, and effectual;<br /> A pattern, precedent, and lively warrant,<br /> For me, most wretched, to perform the like.<br /> Die, die, Lavinia, and thy shame with thee;<br /><br /> (Kills LAVINIA)<br /> And, with thy shame, thy father's sorrow die!<br /><br />...<br /><br />Shakespeare here alludes to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verginia" rel="nofollow">this story from Roman history</a>.<br /><br />Islam is nonetheless a big part of the problem, because it contributes substantially to the prevalence and persistence of this cultural pattern.Rich Rostromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13262703348236110420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-60342121876987752152015-08-12T18:39:50.128-06:002015-08-12T18:39:50.128-06:00Islam is not a religion, it is an insane totalitar...Islam is not a religion, it is an insane totalitarian death cult. Islam must be banned by a constitutional amendment, with all Muslims being expelled to the 57 Muslim lands. no immigration, no student visas, no tourists.John Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07512292512993140028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-54380668968441708792015-08-12T15:04:40.165-06:002015-08-12T15:04:40.165-06:00Not long ago, state officials in Saudi Arabia (the...Not long ago, state officials in Saudi Arabia (the religious police) prevented young girls from leaving a burning building because their heads were uncovered. In Pakistan, women have acid thrown in their faces if they behave dishonorably. One woman, after years of plastic surgery, killed herself. This sort of thing goes on and on. asdfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10270615751004712276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2807403883562053852.post-219641094312841542015-08-12T06:52:57.206-06:002015-08-12T06:52:57.206-06:00More bizarre: Otherwise sane people who defend th...More bizarre: Otherwise sane people who defend the teachings that lead to this kind of behavior. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com